Xenimus Message Board

People always say that Xenimus does not have very good graphics. So speak up! What would you like to see improved?

I think you sould redo the graphics like you have rebuilt FP from scratch and on TD your using an old system from like 10 years ago i think you should change everything make it look like a modern game would look like.

i think just smoothing the edges of a bunch if not all the modles would make a bigger difference then people realize as far as what people think an improovemtn is.

The only thing i could think of about the graphics is make it to where you can show off your colors REGARDLESS of the race you choose, the graphics ofcourse are not going to be the same as WoW etc because its not a first person type of game, i like the way it is other than the colors, and the fact that all leaths/helms etc have the EXACT same graphic just a different color.

Ej, Majority of all non biased opinions come out of the ventrillo we have and pay for, we miss you bro. Come in please and we can share our ideas

Back when I played in 2001-2002 I always thought the graphics of most of the items were really cool. Back then there was only up to Spirit items though, but everything looked great, especially the Staff of Almus, Staff of Viarum, Vitadimer Halbred (it has been changed), and Sword of the Dead. They were really unique looking but still looked very realistic. To this day I still think the Sword of the Dead still looks the best out of any weapon. When you added Ominex + gear, they were cool but now the game looks more space age with bright flashy colors.

In my opinion, I like a sword to look like a sword, but a black and white candicane (Dirus Sword). This is why I still like the way the Sword of the Dead look. It's very simple but yet looks really good. Same goes with shields, helms and armor too. I always loved the way the old Sanctus Shield looked cause it was very simple yet still realistic.

But like someone above said, making the edges smoother would do a lot for a TD game.

make evil side wizzys look like good wizzys with the robe look/ hmm i like the idea of making this game like wow but i like the mouse sword idk if u would call it first person but keep the mouse pointer i got tons of idea's this is just a few. change sp armors there kinda old looking ..i got lots more

add new models of armors, leathers and plate all got same model just dif skin.

make females look like a female on evil sides characters and scallions.

ya just mi 2 cents

I liked the old char models now all the girls look like......... hmmm they just look like guys with big hoots. Except the human female on good side i like her.

Also sanc shields and sp plates back to the way they used to be they looked tons better then.

TD doesnt need major improvements graphic wise since..lets be honest..we dont play for the graphics... one of my biggest problems though is of the many items that have the same design like helms, shields etc. that and the edges like everyone else said, can make a huge difference.

I honestly don't think the graphics should be improved much. Just smoothing out the square look like everyone else said would help. What I would like to see though is just making gear/armor more diverse.

A reflective plate looks exactly the same as a elemental plate, and Elemental leather looks almost just like a regular magic leather unless a human is wearing it. Same goes with shields. The old sanctus and mystic shields looked awesome.

I think it would also be cool to see mages wear mainly cloaks/robes so more of those could be added.

Ohter than that graphics don't need to be upgraded a lot, just touched up a bit. Leave the big graphics for FP.

Making some of the textures higher quality would be a good idea. I could also bring back the transparent cape on the spirit plate and allow color selection on it. Keep in mind also that I can never do what everyone wants. If I go and make changes like this some people will hate it for sure.

People keep saying the 'edges', the edges of what? Not sure what you mean by that.

I cant believe people liked the old shields. They were super low poly and crappy looking with terrible texturing.

Run vs walk? I have a nice walking model sequence I could put in but nobody would use it, you have to realize when your asking for something that would never get used. There is no reason people would walk if they could run.

I could redo some of the character models but keep in mind redoing those is a major amount of work! I gotta find a good female and then create a version of her for every armor type in the game.

All character changes to create nicer looking armors is a ton of work. If I do get into doing this I will post screen shots before hand.

i think as far as shields it was mainly the sanctus shield that looked better in the past

and ya the female chars i know i hear complaints about alot

to tell u the truth..... wanna mmaybe wait until fp is closer to a release to work on this.... no one can handle two major projects like this on their own no matter how much skill they have, your working on fp and a xen td reskin. thats a heck of a lot of work, im not trying to say that you cant or your not able because i know you are able to and i know you can do it if you want to, but working on one project at a time just makes more sence.


And what people meen by edges is basicly less boxy textures and materials .... BUT i dont know if thats the materials or the engine that makes the modles look like their made out of boxes or not.

Maybe ej should focus on his money making game. Just because fp is first person doesn't mean more people will play it. Diablo 2 still has a lot more players than most mmos out ATM and that's a free game. A lot more people play td and, from what I put together, probably always will. Ej will do what he seems best for him and that's not a problem.

Back on topic so I'm not warned :p, when people say edges I'm assuming they mean the edge or end of the graphic for an item, the tip. They're kind of blocky. I just want to see smoother grahphics, no more reused item graphics or simply seeing just the colour change, and some old item graphics back (sp plate, old shield graphics but redone smoother, etc). Also maybe a difference between similar items like redos/hit ammies unless that was done on purpose to prevent over abudance in economy.

ummmm...... diablo 2 isnt free... well at least not by default = ^)


but when the new fp does come out almost everyone who plays xen right now will try it i can assure u of that wether or not they stick with it depends on the game and the community ( jst like any game ) its to say anything exact about fp, as of yet i know about 20 people out of xen that will try it apon realese ( Very old xen players that have since quit )

I think that if people can take the new fp being made seriuse it will be e.j's legacy

The models look blocky because I personally did a lot of the 3d modeling and I'm not very good at it. I decided a while back that I would not be doing 3D modeling work anymore. They need to be bought and I need to stick to programming.

Maybe I can find that old sanctus shield in the backup files. That would be an easy change.

I will never understand the mentality that people have where they say I should give up on FP. If I listened to people like that then this game would not exist at all. I don't know if FP will ever be successful, but one thing I know for sure is that giving up is never successful.

hmm... well said e.j

and when XenimusFp comes out i will definitly play it alot ( and i dont care if my character gets deleted or not )

I ment free monthly -.- anyways, I don't know any people who will be trying fp. the game needs more than just a graphics overhaul. Td has been around for what 10 years and has had 100's of players and in the time fp has been out, it capped at what, 40 active? All I'm saying is EJ should focus on what the majority of his players play and hold off on fp for his free time. Just my two cents. If what you say holds ground and "20 people" come to play xenfp, just think of how many people would come back to play td if it had some new polished graphics and some old mechanics brought back. It's a no brainer to know which one is a better decision.

Never give up either TD or FP, they are both two totaly different games. If you give us a picture of the new FP or something like that it would have been nice.

People just say that they want you to give up on FP because they love TD so much. They want you to not ignore TD and from what I can tell the last month or so you seem to be spending a lot of time on TD as well so that is a good sign.

As for graphics one thing that should be changed is to not make any items look the same. such as super spirit shield and holy power shield, (sp lth, super sp lth, 52 ac sp lth, and zon rins leather), etc... I also think super items should be given a minor change in the graphic to indicate what it is. Otherwise the graphics have come a far way after looking at old pictures from 7+ years ago.

no one said fp was going to be free and i dont know anyone that will come back to td if the grafics changed, other than the fact to just see the new grafics and then go back to w/e they were doing.

I am going to start asking the old xen players who have since quit "why they quit" and ill see what common denominator their is ( this is suposing that their is a same answer amung any of them )

I think what people mean by smoothening edges is to add some sort of anti-aliasing function for all edges in the game.

Ej, I'm not saying give up on fp, me personally, I would focus on what earns me money/ what people play more. That's just me. It's more of a priority thing than giving up one or the other.

And I never said it was going to remain free bcforce. I'm talking current times, with what I think ej should do. I'm not jumping from present to future. Make sure you read the post correctly.

Sorry Joe but I have to agree, the old Sanctus Shields WERE pretty badass, as simple as they looked. The new ones look extremely lame. I'm pretty sure almost every person in Xen misses the old sanc shields.

Also the old mystic shields, they looked sweet! The new ones... yuck, they look boring. Some of the new shield models look better, and some of the older ones looked better.

I think it would be really hard to overhaul Xenimus TD to make it compare with modern games, especially for one person. One of the reasons the graphics dont look that great, is all the low polygon counts. I dont think the current engine could handle much more though, as it already bogs down bad with a bunch of action on the screen at one given time.

I dont know if it would be possible, but something that might really improve the visuals of the game, would maybe be some more variety in terrain? Like, everythings extremely flat, everything could still stay flat, but like maybe have paths look like they are worn into the terrain, make the town squares and buildings higher detail, like the square maybe have dirt built up around it, where it looks like the square its self is a slab thats put into the ground.

Also weather effects were an awesome change, I think everyone agree'd. How hard would it be to add some type of fog into the game? Maybe off and on it would get foggy? Or even some type of permanent fog that would add some atmosphere to the game.

Other then that, I think one of the biggest thing people that are new to the game (even my girlfriend laughed), is the character and monster animations, are extremely simple and... unnatural lol. I'd be willing to bet animations are probably one of the hardest things to do, so I'm not goona bitch and complain about it, especially since its just one person that made everything we have to play with.

Just some input.

Also fix rangers, haha.